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There's a good reason these fanfics are locked, honey.

God, sorry for all the spam, s;kdkad;fd.

I've pretty much come to the conclusion that I'm a bit of a hypocrite. While I was completely fine with Patrick's "I read the fanfic" comment a few months back and thought it was kind of hilarious, evidently I cannot take nearly the same thing being said by Brendon and Ryan. This is most likely due to the fact that, um, I haven't really written a lot of porn starring Patrick and I wouldn't cringe and curl into a horrified ball of woe if he ever happened upon this journal.

Okay, on the one hand it's hysterical the way Brendon embarrasses Ryan so badly, oh my goodness. He doesn't even think twice! On the other hand, um. I can't help the way my palms break into a sweat at the mere THOUGHT of simple Google searches.

Yes yes, this isn't anything new, and while I DO like to entertain myself with wonderful scenarios involving Brendon reading pornfiction out loud to Ryan via his Sidekick, I also tend to think when it comes to this fandom, ignorance is fucking bliss.

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I was just thinking the exact same thing! The thought of these boys reading some of the things that get written about them makes me cringe and even blush (like I did when I watched that interview). Not only do I not want them to read it, I don't even want them to know about it.

Like, it wouldn't freak me out if they decided to check some of it out? Just don't tell me about it. EVER.

That stuff makes me uncomfortable too. I like to pretend they don't know! Separate worlds! Har har. I got really annoyed earlier in the month when someone stole someone else's Patrick/Pete slash art and posted it to the Patrick website competition forum as their own work. It was somewhere where Patrick was going to have to see it and while it wasn't explicit, or anything, it's still awkward. Especially since the original artist of the piece had to come out and try to have it taken down, which is something she didn't want to have to do.

Ignorance is bliss! :x

Ugh, that's like all those stories you hear about fucking crazy fans giving Gerard their Waycest fics. THE FUCK. What is wrong with people, seriously? I DO NOT WRITE SLASH FOR THEM, I WRITE IT FOR MYSELF/MY FRIENDS/FANDOM.

I'm kind of like, whaaatever. It's not illegal and while I don't necessarily want to discuss it with them, I don't shove slashfic in their faces. I don't shove genfic in their faces -- when I see kids discussing fic in the comments at

patd I get pissed off, but I draw the line and I keep it drawn, so to speak, and if they go hunting that shit down, then it's really just their own fault. I know there are weirdos who email them slash or whatever, and that's irritating but in terms of covering my own ass I think I'm good \o/

To be frank, I'm more concerned about the people I know in real life hunting down my journal <.

See, this is why I usually avoid

patd, because shit like that just drives me nuts. I really like being ignorant to the crazies out there who don't know how to use the internet/use discretion. But I tend to agree, if they're hunting for it, they can't really blame anyone but themselves if they ignore the back button. I'm nearly 100% certain Pete knows about

damnyouwentz, and a part of me wants to believe he skimmed some of the fics and told Ryan, "see, it's not *all* bad." :P

That's why this is the best disclaimer ever: IF YOU CAME TO THIS PAGE BY GOOGLING YOUR OWN NAME, HIT THE BACK BUTTON RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. NOW.

But yeah, I'd be completely embarrassed if any of these boys knew that I read stuff about them. Not that I don't completely love what gets written (and not that all of it is full of hot and sweaty sex) but yeah...it would be awkward as hell.

Though it might lead to a conversation about RPS and how they're actually "characters." Because as much as I love to read about it (and wish it were so), I don't really think that Spencer and Jon are sleeping with each other. Regardless of all the LOOKS and TOUCHES. Ahem.

That's why this is the best disclaimer ever: IF YOU CAME TO THIS PAGE BY GOOGLING YOUR OWN NAME, HIT THE BACK BUTTON RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. NOW.

Okay, seriously? One of the most hysterically funny and simultaneously weirding-out parts of bandom is this disclaimer. When I first ran across it I laughed uproariously. Then I saw it again. And again. And then learned this was actually a semi-legitimate fear. o___O And now I'll probably use it too, because. Yeah. Boundaries! Boundaries are actually very important things to have; I have learned to love and attend to them carefully. >.>

It really is! Because these boys...they're growing up now. The internet isn't some crazy concept for them. They know livejournal and myspace and all of that stuff. They certainly know google. And while I don't think they spend all of their time off doing searches, it might happen every once in a while and look what pops up!

I'm sure if I were famous, I'd be kinda freaked out about it but depending on the fic, I might be flattered. Cause there's some good fic out there. RYRO just needs to stay away from the GSF.

RYRO just needs to stay away from the GSF.
Tru dat. Poor traumatized baby!

RYRO just needs to stay away from the GSF.

OMG you ain't kiddin'. That kid's been fucked eight ways from Sunday.

*dies*

I can't believe you just said that.

;)

Also, ICON!

I founded it!

\o/!!! good stuff.

OMG, and I was in an Office community talking to someone and I used the icon. She was all, "That's my icon!" And now we're friends. Hooray!

See!! Spence on drums transcends all fandoms! I have the one you're using now on my myspace page (which is full of my real life friends none of which are into these bands. :( Moving on.) and I get asked about it all the time. My response is almost always. "That is Spencer fucking Smith and he is SEX ON DRUMS and you should LOVE HIM OMG let me tell you all about my bandom."

At this point I feel we need to give props to

boygirl_icons for stuffing so much awesomeness into 1 square inch.

*giggles*

Yup. I've got the same problem. Actually, my best friend is the one who originally turned me on to Panic! but she has no idea who any of them are, so she's of no use to me. :D

Best response EVER! I feel like we're little soldiers, marching in the bandom army. Or maybe we're more like missionaries.

*gives props*

Yes! We are missionaries! Spreading the good word! haha

You know, actually, I didn't like "I Write Sins" when it was on the radio. It was one of those things where, the sound was new, so I hadn't decided whether I liked it or not yet. I thought it was interesting though. And then the radio just played it into the ground and kind of made me hate it (back when I had Sirius radio I mean, it didn't get a lot of airtime here in bluegrass/country/gospel land). It was "Lying" that did it for me. Brendon's voice, it didn't just make me pause, I couldn't move, was afraid of making any noise and missing something. So then I Youtubed it and sweet Jesus, saw them in motion, and it's been down hill ever since.

You know what? I'm gonna post about this. I want to know how everyone got into these bands in the first place. I have to go back to work, but I want to do it now! *huff* Fine. I'm gonna go be a mature, responsible adult. *shuffles off*

I'm sure Brendon's parents would appreciate that.

I had the same problem with "I Write Sins..." I liked it at first but then I heard it so many times that I couldn't take it anymore and I really wanted nothing to do with them. My friend forced me to listen to the cd on a road trip and I did. I remember the one song that really stood out was "Lying," not only because of the way it sounded but because of the lyrics.

Am I who you think about in bed, when the lights are dim and your hands are shaking as you're sliding off your dress...

That killed me. It was so naughty but beautifully written. And that whole, A hotter touch a better fuck...fantastic. It's a really great song. Which, obviously, you know. So I always got excited when the song came on the radio. The thing is, I don't actually remember hearing it that much and I only saw the video once or twice. So basically, Panic just disappeared for a year.

I saw the post and I'm definitely going to comment sometime later today. I'm teaching tonight and I have to write up a lesson plan for my professor. I'm a little stressed. :D

Yeah, you're right, the words to "Lying" really are fantastically naughty and, I might add, very fun to sing along to. And he was, what, like, 16? 17? when he wrote those lyrics? Jesus. Angst thy name is Ryro. I love how graphic it is though. 'Cause those are the same thoughts I would have now at age 27 but wouldn't say out loud for fear of being, I dunno, undignified or something. At 17 who really cares? You just wanted to get your feelings out there and hurt/win back the other person. I love that that comes through throughout the entire album really, but especially in this song.

lesson plans *gag* I totally feel your pain. The lesson plans we have to do in KY are ridiculous. Good luck with that.

That's what I love about those lyrics. They're things that everyone wants to say, but can't for whatever reason.

I love every song on that album, but different ones stand out for me. The lyrics in "Lying", the drums in "But It's Better If You Do," and pretty much everything about "Camisado." My dad's an alcoholic and when I read about Ryan's history with his own father things just clicked for me. "Nails for Breakfast" has some lines that really resonate with me, but not like "Camisado." That's one of those songs that make me want to shut my eyes tight and sing at the top of my lungs.

The lesson plan wasn't so bad. I mean, I guess I'm kind of used to our format at my college and apparently NY is supposed to have some pretty tough standards. The teaching part went just fine too. I'm glad it's over.

I really like "Camisado", too. I had read some references to Ryan's dad being an alcoholic in fic, but I never knew if it was true or just something the author had made up for purpose of the story. I could tell though, just by listening to the lyrics of that song, that Ryan had dealt with some pretty rough stuff growing up. It think it's great that you (and other people) can identify with that and maybe get some strength from it.

I was just thinking last night how one of my favourite things about bandom is the need for that extra disclaimer.

Why can't they just stay off the internet like normal people?

Is that Tom Conrad in your icon?

It is Tom Conrad. He cannot contain the pretty any longer and it must be let loose.

Of this I completely approve.

I also love: PETE, GO BACK. RIGHT NOW. XD

Jon and Spencer aren't sleeping together, but they sure do think about it. *tinhats*

*giggles*

I don't think I've ever seen that one. He probably wouldn't listen.

ALL. THE. TIME.

Imagining them reading the fic makes me uncomfortable FOR THEM. I almost wish they didn't know it existed. I'd be weirded out if I were in their position and had people writing fic about me. I'd be flattered, but still weirded out.

It's virtually impossible to think they couldn't know anything about it existing, not when Ryan was a little camwhore on LJ. DAMN YOUR INTERNET-SAVVY WAYS, RYAN ROSS.

That's a big part of the reason I always held out against reading/writing RPF, until I fell ass over teakettle into bandom. It helps that so many of them seem cool with it, but I still squirm a little, occasionally. And then read more fic anyway.

That's a big part of the reason I always held out against reading/writing RPF, until I fell ass over teakettle into bandom.

Yeah, me too. I used to read Buffy fic all the time, but I'd never read anything about the actors because, to me, it just felt too personal. I felt like I was trespassing or something. I think the difference between that and bandom, though, is that when these guys are on stage they do take on characters of sorts. They're often outrageously flirty with each other and some of the things they say/do, I mean c'mon, how could they not expect some people to get an idea and run with it? Speaking solely for myself here, the roles they play on stage is what allows me to read stories about them without getting squicked out.

Doesn't mean I want them reading it though.

Before I got into bandom, all the RPS I wrote centered around people who flat out said they avoided the internet, so I never felt paranoid in the least that they'd ever find my stuff. Then came along Pete Wentz, and yeah.

Given some of the boys' on-stage shenanigans and history of posting pictures of themselves with their naughty bits just barely covered (or, ya know, not covered at all) I think they'd be more surprised if they didn't find fic about themselves on the internet. I think Pete might even be offended. *g*

Oh man, I get MAD SQUIRMY as well.

Actually, the one that REALLY freaks me out? The girlfriends. Especially Keltie who, I think, is pretty familiar with the internets and knows her way around them. I'd be fine with it if I thought everyone was going to be as open-minded and amused by it as Pete and Patrick and Gabe and whoever else is just like eh, whatever. But the boys of Panic! are wildcards. It's like, "do they think it's funny? ARE THEY OFFENDED? WOULD THEY SEE ME AT A M&G AND JUST KNOW?!"

Oh man, these are the things that make it hard for me to get into writing my own fic these days.

BOYS! STAY OFF THE INTERNET AND GO HAVE REAL SEX WITH SOMEBODY PLZKTHNX.

OMG, DON'T TALK ABOUT THE GIRLFRIENDS. Like, okay, Spencer's girlfriend putting those pictures up on MySpace was kind of awesome in one way, and TOTALLY FREAKISH IN ANOTHER. I still can't really look at them sometimes without having it squick me out. Sometimes I wonder if she knows how much the fandom flails around about those pictures, you know? And then I think, "OH HAI, I write tons of porn about your boyfriend and his band, kthxbi." *facepalm*

I find the whole thing interesting. They are very like Jared & Jensen in that they know what's out there, and they know exactly what their fans like to do in their spare time.

And i think they deal with it really well. Like Kripke who throws in references to fic in his episodes {'thanks for leaving me with the menthos twins' was a nod to the crazy j2 out there. *adjusts tin hat proudly*}

And yes, it freaks me out to think that anyone involved with my porn could be reading it. It freaks the hell out of me. That said, they're responsible boys who certainly know how to use a back button, and everything i've seen is clearly labeled, so if they don't want to read it they don't have to.

And when it comes down to it, i don't actually believe that Ryan and Brendon are having wild monkey sex. It would be nice if they were, but they're not, so. I'm just playing in the sandbox.

And it's not like they're going to either a} find my fic {i'm not well known enough}, or b} find mad, wild porn in it {because i haven't written any mad wild porn about them}

Basically, what i think i'm trying to say is, as long as they know it's all in good fun and i don't actually mean it, i'm okay with it. It's good that they don't have any clue that i exist as well.

Isn't that big of me? So, boys. Feel free to read any of the fictional stories i've written about you.

Wow. I just realised how many times i used and up there. SORRY!

But i wanted to say something else {because i just can't shut up, apparently}. In regards to all those people who shove fic and/or slash art under their noses? No. Just, no.

If they want to give them gen pieces of their band, or get them signed, whatever. I myself have an amazing drawing of Brendon that a friend did for me. Would i get Panic! to sign it? Yes. {as long as it was around the picture and not on the drawing itself. Because hi, it's amazing}. But! Would i bounce up to them and get them to sign a picture of Jon fucking Spencer over the couch? No.

There are lines here. There is a major line between them looking for this stuff on their own and fans shoving this stuff under their noses. And that is a line i don't think should ever be crossed.

But what do i know? I'm just a small player in this sandbox. {i'll shut up now. Promise}

Isn't that big of me? So, boys. Feel free to read any of the fictional stories i've written about you.

LMAO LMAO VERY BIG OF YOU.

I think I'd heard about the SPN guys admitting to knowing about the fanfic? And that's gotta be doubly awkward, what with the Wincest AND all the RPS.

*grin* I'm just that nice a person, i guess.

Yeah, Kripke reads it. When Jo came out in S2, she was supposed to be a love interest for Dean, but the fans HATED her, so he wrote her out. They've been asked about what they think about wincest at cons {*headdesk* i don't think i could ever do that to anyone. 'So, people are writing stories about you having sex with someone else on the innernets. How do you feel about that?'} & Jensen has said that they all know about it, they read it for the lolz, and Kripke writes in-jokes into the shows as a nod to the fans.

I think it's hilarious. Again, because chances of them finding my work is so slender.

And hey, again, the way i see it is their famous and part of being famous in cult shows/bands these days is having a hard-core fandom. And this hard-core fandom needs something to occupy their time, so fic, meta, art, discussions, etc. is born. Everywhere.

So i think the only way to deal with it is the way these guys are - knowing it's there, and knowing how to use the back button sensibly.

Again, i've spoken for too long. That's my 2c $47.07 on the matter.

I recognize that I'm just weird, but it doesn't freak me out. And it doesn't freak me out because if they can joke about it, they're obviously able to deal with it. Also, if I were famous and people were writing trippy kinky porn about me, it would amuse me GREATLY. In fact, that would be one of the only things that would make being famous worth all the shitty things that come with it. I would not be freaked out, I would track that shit down and leave cracked-out comments and generally have a GREAT time. For one thing, at least us porn fiction writers genuinely LOVE these guys (or at least their public personas). The only thing that would freak me out as a famous person would be stumbling on the rampant hate, like on patd.

Not weird at all! Fandom is flattery, after all, as amusing and batshit crazy as it is, LOL. I just want them to be amused/horrified in private.

Also, if I were famous and people were writing trippy kinky porn about me, it would amuse me GREATLY.

If Brendon ever wrote a fic in which I had to be Spence's Mrs. Robinson, I think I would find a way to be okay with that. Just sayin'. *g*

I always forget that Ryan and Brendon had livejournals, and then they say something about fic/the Internet and I remember and am weirded out. It's, like, totally possible Ryan came across Fall Out Boy fic during his Pete fanboy phase and uggggh then became friends with them and like. I get really embarrassed FOR him and this is all just a hypothetical situation and I am still squicked.

Also, though, boys, if you keep TALKING about it so damn much, I am going to assume that you want us to keep writing it.

In my last RPF fandom, they boys knew they were being written about. Ian McKellan talked about it on his website (how so awesome, Ian Mckellan?) and I know that Karl Urban and Elijah Wood have said they don't mind it. I take Gabe's 'love stories' comment to mean that he's all right with it too.

It's the whole 'shoving it in their faces thing.' Everytime I see this, I'm totally squicked out, and that's, like, the eighth image that comes up on a google image search of their names. Because the reason we write about them is because they're best friends and if you saw a photoshopped image of you shagging your best friend, would you not find that weird?

That said, I don't mind them knowing about it. Because if I got famous and people wrote about me (a fairly standard argument in anti-RPF. How would you like it?) I'd probably be right there with Gabe rhapsodising about love stories. And if I found something I thought would freak me out (like, I don't know, incest), I wouldn't read it.

They're big boys, they can cope with the back button.

I also tend to think when it comes to this fandom, ignorance is fucking bliss.

OH GOD. WORD. *Cringes right along with you*

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