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aleesha ([personal profile] foxxcub) wrote2005-10-08 02:32 pm

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As I would like to refrain from spamming my LJ today, I'm posting all my thoughts together. Whoa.



It 'twould seem there's grumbling coming from those in the Prison Break fandom about the mass amounts of het fic being produced and about the lack of slash. Well. While I'm the last person on earth to begrudge anyone their slash love, I can't see any real pairings yet in this fandom that work for me. Granted, if someone who's been a long-time "Oz" fan is watching this show, of COURSE they're going to want to slash the shit out of these guys, especially when T-Bag's running around threatening vague anal sex 24/7. It's a prison, there's lots of guys, and only one female lead. Makes sense.

But.

For me, the slash is going to be all about the sex, with great exception to Michael/Lincoln, and that's a whole other ball of wax. Maybe, MAYBE someone can make a really good argument for Michael/Sucre, but they'd have to try their darndest to convince that it'd be anything meaningful, because let's face it: Michael likes Sucre, but in the end he's a cog in the wheels. But, on the other hand, I could see a one-sided relationship being justified, with Sucre wanting more from Michael than he's ever going to be willing to give because he lurves Sara.

And I can't do incest. I just can't. It's a major squick for me that probably will never go away. I realize there's tons of well-written, poignant Pacecest fics out there written by fabulous writers, but I still can't go there. So Michael/Lincoln will never work for me. Period. But, when you have a show with two brothers as lead characters, the incest is going to come out in fandom. Just the way of the beast.

Maybe I'm just so wrapped up in my shiny OTP that the slash doesn't present itself, and maybe that will change over the course of the season. But for now, Abruzzi/Michael makes me want to shiver and die. And not in a good way.



Haha. I love how fucking psycho this fandom is. Go time yourself and see how long it takes you to find a post at Lost Forum on the Jack/Kate shipper boards that starts with "ZOMG THEY LURVE EACH OTHER 4EVA!!!!111".

I'm not even going to get into how my lack of interest in Kate has almost ruined my interest in either Jate or Skate. But I will say after watching the promos for next week, I don't really think Jack is just watching her because he's horny or anything because really, no one has libidos on this show, get real. :P My interpretation is that he explicitly tells everyone not to touch anything in the hatch (his comment "no one touches anything" backs this up) and then comes to find Kate in the shower. His expression looks slightly pissed off, frankly. And it would totally make sense for Kate to, once again, do whatever the hell she pleases and then look at Jack with innocent Bambi eyes in the end. *sigh*

And have these people forgotten that the writers are bound and determined to get Jack with Ana Lucia? Whatever. I'm seriously getting to the point where I don't even care anymore.

I just want my wounded Sawyer back in Jack's arms. ASAP.


Speaking of wounded Sawyer...



Episode 2.06: Abandoned
Airdate: October 26, 2005

10/08 - Sawyer's wound becomes life-threatening as he, Michael and Jin make their way through the interior of the island with the tail section survivors. Source: WCSH TV8


OMG "LIFE-THREATENING" = JACK

*flailsdies*

[identity profile] ambiguousreason.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed on the shower thing. Jack would totally try to pull rank and tell everyone not to touch anything, and Kate would totally be like, "Screw you, I'm taking a shower and you can't stop me neener!"

*flailsdies with you*

My Sawyer better be okay, though, dammit.

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, but I KNEW it would send the shippers--on BOTH sides--into a frenzy of flailing and bickering. Le sigh.

[identity profile] thatsaid.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I know that absolutely no Jack would be able to stop ME from taking a shower after SIX WEEKS on a damn island. Same thing with the chocolate.

I'm thinking that with an episode where Sawyer is where lift-threated, it would be nice to have it be a flashback ep for him.

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the debate right now, as to whether or not this will, in fact, be a Sawyer ep. At first it was thought to be a Shannon ep, but with this spoiler it might change.

Anyone else I wouldn't have a problem with, but Kate is CONSTANTLY going against Jack's wishes. If you want a damn leader, you treat him like one.

[identity profile] ethrosdemon.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
do a prison break reccs post PLEASE!

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, I don't have that many yet! Right now all I'd say is anything by [livejournal.com profile] tinamishi, heh. :P

[identity profile] strutterms.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'm one of...*counts* six people left on the planet who will squeal like that over a 'ship just because it's so goddamn much fun. It's the ones who mean it literally that I fear. *nods* :P

Which brings me to my next point...

ZOMG JACK AND SAWYER 2GETHA!!!1!1!!!ONE!!!!

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, I always have to duck and hide from you and Amber whenever I write anything pertaining to Jate. ;)

ZOMG JACK AND SAWYER LURVE EACH OTHER LIEK WHOA<<<333

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[identity profile] rogueapprentice.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
There speaks the Skater who gets all the sexy moments. ;)

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude! I just said it doesn't really matter to me anymore! Honestly, it wouldn't really bother me at this point which way the triangle went. That's how starved I am for canon action, since teh boys can't snog each other and move on.

[identity profile] alliecat8.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)

"10/08 - Sawyer's wound becomes life-threatening as he, Michael and Jin make their way through the interior of the island with the tail section survivors. Source: WCSH TV8

OMG "LIFE-THREATENING" = JACK

*flailsdies*"

YES! I called it, did I not? A couple of days ago. I said that all is not lost on the Jack-nursing-Sawyer front. It takes a while for a wound to get badly infected, and as slowly as time moves on the island, even if the two groups don't merge for a while there's still time for Sawyer to make it back to Jack while he's wounded. I am beside myself with glee right now. And I'm also fully aware of how sick it is to be dancing with joy at the thought of Sawyer having a life-threatening injury. But I have full faith in Jack to kiss it and make it all better save him.

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. :D

Reading that totally made my day and renewed my faith in the season's direction, not to mention all the Jack-nursing-Sawyer fic has no longer been written in vain.

[identity profile] lolathehated.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
omg. flailsdies too. omg.


i used to be a hardcore skater. now i really can.t stand kate and would much prefer to see jack and sawyer together. i think it.s all of your fanfic. :D

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, well if Jack's going to be with anyone, it damn well oughta be Sawyer. He's the only one that deserves him. ;)

[identity profile] julissak01.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG "LIFE-THREATENING" = JACK

AHHHHHHHH. He needs JACK OMG. *flails with you*

For some strange and unexplainable reason, I'm leaning towards the het ship of Michael/Sara re Prison Break. It's the only het pairing I secretly ship nowadays, and that's saying something about the dynamic between them on the show. Even a slasher like myself approves.

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Because Michael/Sara is currently teh ultimate het ship on TV. That is all.



(OMG THERE WILL BE BOY TOUCHING SOON *continues flailing*)

[identity profile] ficangel.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Prison Break: Okay, I can get that some people are just die-hard slashers and some people are just die-hard het, and subtext that doesn't agree with that honestly does not register with them. I'm like that with incest fic. Most of the people on my flist who watch Supernatural squee weekly about Sam and Dean, and all I see is the kind of unselfconscious rough-housing that siblings always do. But, honestly, I just go where the chemistry is. If Fernando Sucre was the compassionate but pragmatic doctor with the magical ability to see through Michael's bullshit when no one else in that prison can? I would be all over it and attempting to write frottage fic in the vents.

Episode 2.06: Abandoned
Airdate: October 26, 2005

10/08 - Sawyer's wound becomes life-threatening as he, Michael and Jin make their way through the interior of the island with the tail section survivors. Source: WCSH TV8

OMG "LIFE-THREATENING" = JACK


*shrieks and squees* And aren't the camps supposed to be joined on 2.7? So Sawyer can be sick and snarky and Jack can fuss over him and yell at Ana Lucia and it can be great? *beams*

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
If Fernando Sucre was the compassionate but pragmatic doctor with the magical ability to see through Michael's bullshit when no one else in that prison can? I would be all over it and attempting to write frottage fic in the vents.

*dies laughing*

And I would be right there with you.

Re: camps:
Yes, I think you're right, because I believe it was Damon who said these first few eps would be very plot heavy and intense, and then things would level out. So joining the groups by ep 6 or 7 would make sense.

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[identity profile] demonqueen666.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
10/08 - Sawyer's wound becomes life-threatening as he, Michael and Jin make their way through the interior of the island with the tail section survivors. Source: WCSH TV8

OMG "LIFE-THREATENING" = JACK


Let's just hope it's not another "Fooled you, suckah!" fake-out ala "Outlaws". Oh, wait...that was the promo monkeys' fault. I guess we can trust the written summaries better than TDPM (Those Damn Promo Monkeys), right?

PS I am totally stealing that icon for later, because Orientation Film Dude scares/amuses me like whoa.</SMALL

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG this icon amuses the shit out me. :D

You're exactly right about teh Promo Monkeys of Doom. They are not to be trusted. But stuff like this from SpoilerFix.com or places therebouts are a different story. :)

Yeah, and how 'bout "OMG Sawyer has headaches HE'S GONNA DIIIIE"? Stupid monkeys...

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ext_16765: (J/S see thru)

[identity profile] arabella-hope.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry...

And it would totally make sense for Kate to, once again, do whatever the hell she pleases and then look at Jack with innocent Bambi eyes in the end. *sigh* And there in lies her power! *cackles maniaclly*

Eh, It makes more sense to muck it all up before Sawyer comes back and bitch-slaps her, grabs Jack and drags him into the jungle for some homecoming sex ends up hooking up with her. I'd throw her at Jack just to get him to calm the fuck down 'cuz Crazy Jack? Grating on my nerves. I can't see him giving it to her lovengly in the shower, though, which...forceful, aggressive, slam you against the wall Jack? Mmmm...

Anyways...SQUEE!!!! Sawyer needs Jack! And I'm guessing with Ana popping up on the scene, poor little Kate's gonna wish she had been more loyal...

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
forceful, aggressive, slam you against the wall Jack? Mmmm...

Yes, mmm indeedespecially with Sawyer.

I'm actually starting to hope Ana Lucia makes Kate's character more interesting. How'd THAT happen? o__O

[identity profile] vixerunt.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG "LIFE-THREATENING" = JACK

*crosses fingers OMGSOHARDTHEYBREAK*

Someone needs to compile a list of all the hurt/comfort fics that came out after Sawyer left on the raft and then followed with (in fic!verse at least), Jack caring for him until he was out of danger. Unless...people want to start writing new ones...

;-) ;-) *nudge,nudge*

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
BWAHA! I think [livejournal.com profile] halfdutch might've done something like that a while back, or at least compiled her favorites.

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[identity profile] hkath.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
SQUEEEE! indeed!

*points to icon*

I wonder if this means it'll be a Sawyer episode. I know it wasn't supposed to be, but it got me thinking. Maybe the reason 202 got changed wasn't that they wanted to make 202 better, but that they realized the Sawyer flashbacks went better with what was going on in 206, so they pulled them to use them in that episode and then had to fill last-minute with the Michael crap.

OMG, I'm so bouncy now. That made my day :D

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
They changed 2.02 because they felt it made better sense for it to be a Michael ep. :P I know for a fact Josh already filmed scenes for his flashbacks for it. Makes me wonder if they'll keep them for later or make him do all new ones.

I reallyreallyREALLY hope it's a Sawyer. It'd totally make me squee my little fangirl brains out.

[identity profile] deej240z.livejournal.com 2005-10-08 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
OMGLMFAO! Best. Thread. Evah!

Seriously, what's with the supped up daggers of hate for Kate? She's no better or worse than last season. What has she done so far this season except swing her boobs back and forth in the shaft? :-)

Ahem, the good stuff... "LIFE-THREATENING" *squeees with you* *flails and falls over* Oh so goooood! With torture comes comfort. From whomevah. I don't care. Just bring it on!

I'm sorta hoping Ep 6 is not Sawyer's. His stories belong during Nov. sweeps. Extra advertising and all that good stuff. Hopefully they're saving his just a little longer.

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Hopefully they're saving his just a little longer.

Hmmm, you might be on to something with sweeps. But dude. We haven't had a Sawyer-centic episode since FEBRUARY. I think they've held off long enough. O__O

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[identity profile] halfdutch.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
I will forgive them ALL if they do this and it's a Sawyer ep AND Jack is nursing him back to health. I will seriously DIE!

Or if we get just part of that equation, I will also be insanely very happy.

EEEEEEEE!!! Hurt!Sawyer!!!!!

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
BWAHAHAHA!! Jack/Sawyer H/C is a Get Out of Jail Free card for the writers, huh? XD

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[identity profile] tychoelite.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
I know that for the LOST fans on my flist, admitting this is like signing my death warrant, but whatever. It's not really a secret. I'm a Kate&Jack fan.

I know. Blasphemy. For for every fandom ever though, I've been all about the slash. For some reason, this just jumped out at me while I was first watching the show. Oh well. So anyway... I'm not going nuts over the shower scene, but it did make me kinda warm & fuzzy inside. Kinda like the life-threatening/Jack thing for you.

To each their own, I say.

I can agree that Kate isn't the most well rounded character on the show, though. I think I more drawn to Jake than anything. It just works for me that he be with Kate.

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
I no longer think Jate is gross/wrong/etc., I just don't want Kate with him OR Sawyer right now. She's just meh. Hopefully they'll fix that this season, but somehow I doubt it.

[identity profile] tigereyed24.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I can totally see that being how the shower thing happens. But I've also stopped caring who Jack gets with, so I'm unconcerned :-P

Dude, I think I'm gonna have to put Prison Break on the back burner (along with the first season of Greys Anatomy that I still ahven't gotten around to watching) for now because OMG THE LACK OF TIME, IT KEELS ME.

FRIG, I was supposed to avoid spoilers! Now I know that Sawyer and co get away from whoever the hell is keeping them captive right now AND that theres more than just ana-lucia that survived. BLAH. lol. Oh well, it was bound to happen eventually anyways and I already knew both of those things so... I guess I have nothing to whine about. Right. I'll jsut be leaving then... :-P

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
*pets you*

'sokay, you can catch up with Prison Break later. While it's fabulous and you should be watching, it's not like you'll be completely lost if you jump in later.

[identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
My opinion on the slash issue? I don't like Michael/Sara (I see them, but they bore me), but I don't see much slash potential either.

Mostly because Michael doesn't strike me as the type for it. He doesn't really fit the usual slash stereotypes (neither the hyper agressive male, not the bleeding heart romantic, no intense obsessive taking!it!personally! hate relationship with anyone, not a "I trust in you above all others" kind of perfect buddy friendship). He's just too focused and controlled for me to buy that he would go some sort of crazy sexual attraction romp, especially considering that with the exception of his brother, he has known these people for like two weeks.

But just because Michael doesn't ping me so far, doesn't mean that slash is impossible or even unlikely. Just... not with Michael. And Michael isn't just the most attractive one, but also the one the storyline and interaction focuses on mostly. So even if the other characters have slash potential, they usually don't get enough Michael-independent interaction for us to be able to really see anything.

[identity profile] gobsmackit.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
From the two/three-and-a-fraction times I've seen the show, I saw much more Guy From John Doe/Girl From The Craft het-fodder than any other pairing. Do people write that?

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
You mean Lincoln/Veronica? Not really, at least from what I've seen. On the show they're exes (they dated in college, I think), and people tend to ship the people that haven't gotten together already, you know? Personally, I think Veronica's a bit of a twit, so I don't really give her much thought. :P

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[identity profile] killanidea.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
OMG "LIFE-THREATENING" = JACK

*flails with you* I want need a Jack/Sawyer moment liek NOW. We've waited long enough dammit. >:D

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-09 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
WORD. It will make everything right in the world.

[identity profile] gorgon-mythos.livejournal.com 2005-10-10 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, Lost. I love the show and will continue watching for the characters but I cannot buy into the writers' tired tries of hooking Kate up with, well, anybody. It doesn't help that I have been completely and utterly ruined by Jawyer--I partially blame you for that. ;D *g*

[identity profile] foxxcub.livejournal.com 2005-10-10 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, dude, I've ruined myself for Kate hooking up with them. XD